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Blood Brothers Podcast is the official podcast of 5Pillars News hosted by journalist Dilly Hussain. The show discusses a plethora of political, religious and socioeconomic issues affecting Muslim communities in the West and the Muslim-majority world with experts, influencers and professionals.
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Thursday May 29, 2025
Naledi Pandor | "White Genocide", Apartheid, International Law & Gaza | BB #165
Thursday May 29, 2025
Thursday May 29, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with South Africa's former ANC cabinet minister of international relations and cooperation, Naledi Pandor.
Topics of discussion include:
- President Cyril Ramaphosa’s meeting with President Donald Trump at the Oval Office.
- Claims of a “white genocide” of farmers in South Africa.
- Gaza genocide, the ICJ Case and Western complicity.
- Should we have any hope or trust in international law?
- Prosecuting returning IDF soldiers.
- Inaction and complicity of Arab Muslim leaders in Gaza genocide.
- Loss of support for the ANC and formation of breakaway parties (EFF and MK parties).
- Is there a possibility of the emergence of a pro-Apartheid pro-Israeli leadership in South Africa?
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