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Blood Brothers Podcast is the official podcast of 5Pillars News hosted by journalist Dilly Hussain. The show discusses a plethora of political, religious and socioeconomic issues affecting Muslim communities in the West and the Muslim-majority world with experts, influencers and professionals.
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7 hours ago
7 hours ago
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the controversial Saudi Arabian dissident scholar, academic and activist, Dr. Mohammed al-Massari.
Topics of discussion include:
- Family background, heritage and growing up in Saudi Arabia.
- A brief history of Saudi Arabia and the role of Islam in its governance and society.
- The rise of Pan-Arabism and Saudi Arabia welcoming the Muslim Brotherhood during the 1950s-1970s.
- The Iranian revolution, the siege of Makkah, and U.S. troops in Saudi during the first Iraq war.
- Reformation movements and holding Saudi rulers and scholars to account.
- Imprisonment, exile and seeking asylum in Britain.
- Criticising regimes, ruling by Islam, and accusations of extremism.

6 days ago
6 days ago
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the world-renowned Pakistani academic, thinker and specialist in Islamic economics, Dr. Asad Zaman.
Topics of discussion include:
- Travelling to the U.S. for education and career.
- Life of academia at Ivy League universities during the 1970s.
- Finding Islam, reformation, and returning to Pakistan.
- Top-down (radical) and bottom-up (gradual) methods to establish Islam.
- The capitalist financial system's grip on the global economy.
- Is a gold and silver currency model sustainable and realistic?
- Establishing independent labour/trust-based currency that can run parallel to and exist within existing capitalist systems.

Saturday May 31, 2025
Errol Musk | White South Africa, Raising Elon Musk & Messy Marriages | BB #166
Saturday May 31, 2025
Saturday May 31, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the prominent South African businessman and the father of Elon Musk, Errol Musk.
Topics of discussion include:
- Family background and heritage: from England to South Africa.
- Growing up white in apartheid South Africa: memories and reality.
- Marriage to Maye Haldeman, Nazi in-laws and raising Elon Musk.
- Is Elon Musk's success linked to his father and parenting?
- Romance with ex-step daughter Jana Bezuidenhout.
- Death, purpose of life and belief in God.
- Migration, assimilation, and views on black people.

Thursday May 29, 2025
Naledi Pandor | "White Genocide", Apartheid, International Law & Gaza | BB #165
Thursday May 29, 2025
Thursday May 29, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with South Africa's former ANC cabinet minister of international relations and cooperation, Naledi Pandor.
Topics of discussion include:
- President Cyril Ramaphosa’s meeting with President Donald Trump at the Oval Office.
- Claims of a “white genocide” of farmers in South Africa.
- Gaza genocide, the ICJ Case and Western complicity.
- Should we have any hope or trust in international law?
- Prosecuting returning IDF soldiers.
- Inaction and complicity of Arab Muslim leaders in Gaza genocide.
- Loss of support for the ANC and formation of breakaway parties (EFF and MK parties).
- Is there a possibility of the emergence of a pro-Apartheid pro-Israeli leadership in South Africa?

Friday May 16, 2025
Saqib Mohammed | Halal vs Kosher, Stun vs Non-Stun & Dodgy Qurbani | BB #164
Friday May 16, 2025
Friday May 16, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the CEO of the Halal Food Information Centre (HFICUK), Saqib Mohammed.
Topics of discussion include:
- How did Saqib get into the halal slaughter and certification industry?
- Halal Food Authority (HFA) vs Halal Monitoring Committee (HMC).
- The science and facts about stunned and non-stunned meat.
- Regulating and certifying halal meat and abattoirs.
- Kosher slaughter and consuming the meat of 'Ahlal Kitab'.
- Calls for banning halal slaughter and Islamophobic dogwhistle politics.
- Dodgy halal slaughter and qurbani label campaign.

Saturday May 10, 2025
Haris Tagari | Islamic history adventures & not wasting your youth | BB #163
Saturday May 10, 2025
Saturday May 10, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks to journalist, videographer and the newest addition to the 5Pillars team, Haris Tagari.
Topics of discussion include:
- Haris' family background, heritage and upbringing.
- Studying history at the University of Lancaster and travelling while studying. Making most of youth and avoiding smart phones and social media.
- Adventures to Iraq, the Balkans and backlash after visiting Syria.
- Getting into journalism, joining 5Pillars and acknowledging weaknesses.
- Containing the ego, avoiding fame and remaining sincere and steadfast.

Saturday May 03, 2025
Hamza Tzortzis | Understanding trauma, destructive doubts & failing Gaza | BB #162
Saturday May 03, 2025
Saturday May 03, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the prominent Muslim thinker, author and the CEO of Sapience Institute, Hamza Tzortzis.
Topics of discussion include:
- Chris Eubank.Jr vs. Conor Benn: Fatherhood and role models.
- Understanding trauma and giving it the proper meaning.
- Trauma, destructive doubts and Lighthouse Mentoring.
- Gaza, sacrifice and the Ummah's collective failure.
- Allah-centric pro-Palestine activism and infantilising the Ummah.
- Muslim organisations, prominent duat and unethical contractual conditions.

Sunday Apr 27, 2025
Sami Hamdi | Muslim rulers abandoning Gaza and ummatic optimism | BB #161
Sunday Apr 27, 2025
Sunday Apr 27, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain spoke with the prominent Muslim journalist, commentator and activist, Sami Hamdi from The International Interest.
Topics of discussion include:
- American Muslims vs. British Muslims: Innovation vs Preservation.
- 18 months into the Gaza genocide - what is Israel's end game?
- Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman and normalisation with Israel.
- Turkiye, Qatar, Egypt, Jordan, the UAE and the betrayal of Gaza.
- Ahmed al-Sharaa and Syria's biggest internal and external challenges.
- Iran and the future and of the 'Axis of Resistance'.
- Ummatic optimism, striving, and divine justice in the Hereafter.

Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Franck Magennis | Hamas, Zionism & UK anti-terrorism laws | BB #160
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with the barrister who is representing Hamas for de-proscription in the UK, Franck Magennis.
Topics of discussion include:
- How did Hamas' legal instruction come about and why accept it?
- The 2021 proscription of Hamas in the UK and October 7th, 2023.
- Robert Jenrick's witch-hunt and targeting of lawyer Fahad Ansari of Riverway Law.
- The three parts of the application: International law, history and Palestinian dignity.
- UK anti-terrorism laws and the right to resist occupation under international law.
- Genocide in Gaza, Israeli war crimes and returning IDF soldiers.

Monday Apr 21, 2025
Monday Apr 21, 2025
In this episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with former inmate and Muslim prisoners rights activist, Dwaine Yusuf Patterson.
Topics of discussion include:
- Dwaine's childhood, background, school and teenage years.
- Getting involved in violent crimes and gangs in south London.
- From youth offenders' juvenile prison to adult prison before the age of 18.
- Chopping a kid's thumb off and shooting two men at a car hire showroom.
- Exposure to Islam and becoming a Muslim in prison.
- The growth of Islam and Muslim converts in UK prisons.
- Systematic targeting of Muslim prisoners.